____/ Mark Kent on Monday 07 April 2008 11:59 : \____
> Kelton <kelton@xxxxxxxxxxxx> espoused:
>> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>> Policing internet 'not ISP's job'
>>>
>>> ,----[ Quote ]
>>> | The head of one of Britain's biggest internet providers has criticised
>>> | the music industry for demanding that he act against pirates.
>>> |
>>> | [...]
>>> |
>>> | BBC technology correspondent Rory Cellan-Jones said that the music
>>> | industry has been fighting a losing battle to prevent people from
>>> | swapping songs for nothing on the internet.
>>> |
>>> | Mr Dunstone, whose TalkTalk broadband is Britain's third biggest internet
>>> | provider, said the demands are unreasonable and unworkable.
>>> `----
>>>
>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7329801.stm
>>>
>>>
>>> Related:
>>>
>>> ISPs demand record biz pays up if cut-off P2P users sue
>>>
>>> ,----[ Quote ]
>>> | ISPs are calling on the record industry to put its money where its mouth
>>> | is on illegal file-sharing, by underwriting the cost of lawsuits brought
>>> | by people who are wrongly accused of downloading or uploading music.
>>> |
>>> | [...]
>>> |
>>> | It's the latest public detail from long-running private negotiations that
>>> | have hit mainstream media headlines today. The lobbying campaign to have
>>> | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>> | government force ISPs to disconnect persistent illegal file-sharers
>>> | scored a victory with a leak to The Times. The draft government document
>>> | says: "We will move to legislate to require internet service providers to
>>> | take action on illegal file-sharing."
>>> `----
>>>
>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/02/12/anti_filesharing_paper_leak/
>>>
>>>
>>> Illegal downloaders 'face UK ban'
>>>
>>> ,----[ Quote ]
>>> | The Internet Service Providers Association said data protection laws
>>> | would prevent providers from looking at the content of information sent
>>> | over their networks.
>>> `----
>>>
>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7240234.stm
>>>
>>>
>>> RIAA, MPAA urge pro-copyright vows from presidential candidates
>>>
>>> ,----[ Quote ]
>>> | One question, for instance, asks: "How would you promote the progress of
>>> | science and creativity, as enumerated in the U.S. Constitution, by
>>> | upholding and strengthening copyright law and preventing its
>>> | diminishment?"
>>> `----
>>>
>>>
http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9821141-7.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20
>>>
>>>
>>> Is Sarko Uxorious?
>>>
>>> ,----[ Quote ]
>>> | What this neglects to take into account is the fact that falling into the
>>> | public domain is a gain for the public - and hence the actual moment when
>>> | it becomes part of the "national pop heritage" - and that the gain vastly
>>> | outweighs any minimal effect it has on ageing rockers' royalties.
>>> | Unfortunately, with this action, as with others (including the "three
>>> | strikes and you're out" approach to fighting filesharing), Sarkozy shows
>>> | himself to be an old man - however young his new wife may be.
>>> `----
>>>
>>> http://opendotdotdot.blogspot.com/2008/02/is-sarko-uxorious.html
>>>
>>>
>>> MEPs debate tightening up lobbying rules
>>>
>>> ,----[ Quote ]
>>> | MEPs on Thursday launched the thorny debate on tightening rules covering
>>> | the thousands of EU lobbyists in Brussels, with an initial discussion
>>> | showing deputies in favour of defining the term "lobbyist" as broadly as
>>> | possible but shying away from the 600-page rulebook that defines and
>>> | confines lobbyists in the US.
>>> |
>>> | [...]
>>> |
>>> | For his part, Mr Stubb says he is not out to demonise lobbyists, whose
>>> | activities have come to light recently during the ferocious lobbying on
>>> | legislation that took place during the development of the chemicals,
>>> | services and software patent laws.
>>> `----
>>>
>>> http://euobserver.com/9/25526
>>>
>>>
>>> Leaked letter warns of open source 'threat to eco-system'
>>>
>>> ,----[ Quote ]
>>> | leaked letter to the European Commission has revealed the extent of
>>> | lobbying by proprietary software groups to prevent the widespread
>>> | adoption of open-source software.
>>> |
>>> | Sent in response to a recent report on the role of open-source
>>> | software in the European economy, Microsoft-funded pressure group, the
>>> | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>> | Initiative for Software Choice (ISC) warned of
>>> | potentially dire effects if too much encouragement was given
>>> | to open source software development.
>>> `----
>>>
>>> http://www.techworld.com/news/index.cfm?RSS&NewsID=7109
>>>
>>>
>>> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=5jkZFIwmc-8
>>>
>>>
>>> Lessig: Required Reading: the next 10 years
>>>
>>> ,----[ Quote ]
>>> | Yet governments continue to push ahead with this idiot idea -- both
>>> | Britain and Japan for example are considering extending existing terms.
>>> | Why?
>>> |
>>> | The answer is a kind of corruption of the political process. Or better,
>>> | a "corruption" of the political process. I don't mean corruption in the
>>> | simple sense of bribery. I mean "corruption" in the sense that the
>>> | system is so queered by the influence of money that it can't even get
>>> | an issue as simple and clear as term extension right.
>>> `----
>>>
>>> http://www.lessig.org/blog/archives/003800.shtml#003800
>>
>> It just goes to show you, $ (or £) = Might; Might = Right.
>> Or, put more crassly, he who has the gold makes the rules.
>> Or, put more depressingly, freedom is something that the
>> non-rich people imagine that they have ? until they piss
>> off the rich people.
>>
>> It'll be interesting to see how long Charles Dunstone stands
>> his ground on this matter. What is his sell-out point? How
>> much money will it take to buy out his stalwart pledge? How
>> much legal pressure will he endure?
>>
>
> Well, he risks p*ssing-off all his customers, or at least, the
> technically savvy ones. The tech-savvy ones are usually the ones who
> provide tech-support around their networks of extended family and
> friends, so the chances are that if those customers are lost, so the
> networks will go with them.
>
> He also has to add up the substantial cost of DPI against all his
> customers, the call centre-costs of managing calls from p*ssed-off
> customers who want to know why they've been targeted or disconnected
> when they've done nothing wrong, and the subsequent huge swathes of
> legal action from those ex-customers who also want refunds for the
> remaining terms of their contracts, and so on.
>
> Basically, it will *never* be cost effective for ISPs to do policing for
> the BPI.
This would not stop copyrights infringement either. People would start
encrypting traffic. The media has been through this debate before. They fight
a losing battle, looking for some other scapegoat/servant else to blame.
--
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