____/ Doug Mentohl on Friday 16 November 2007 15:22 : \____
> "Hilf: Years ago, Microsoft had a very specific interpretation of what
> open source is. Open source and Linux were sort of synonymous and it
> was sort of a specter-like ghost"
>
> translation: we can't fight Linux directly, what we can do is pollute
> the meaning by producing our own basterdised version (MicroVell Linux)
> and threatening people with litigation if they don't use that.
>
> "the real value of open source from Microsoft is understanding how
> community developed software can happen on our platform .. which is
> why I submitted the licenses to the OSI"
>
> Similarly with the GPL, what we do is produce our own mutually
> referencial and contradictory licenses all tied to the Microsoft
> platform, what could be more open that that.. <smirk>
>
> "When people buy commercial software, really what they're buying is a
> guarantee .. it's hard to replicate that ecosystem of accountability
> and that guarantee"
>
> translation: you can't get support for (lowercase) open source
> software.
>
> "There's lots of participation of IBM in open source, but there's very
> little shared source code between IBM's shipping products and open
> source software"
>
> What does he mean, Roy, does IBM contribute very little to 'open
> source software'?
>
> "Q: Why not, .. do an interoperability agreement with the Linux
> community in general"
>
> "Hilf: .. Linux the kernel is literally just a kernel .. That's why
> when we do these partnerships we want to use, we want to partner with
> the people .."
>
> translation: we can 'use' partners, we can't manipulate an entire
> community .. oops, bit of a freudian slip :]
>
> "Q: Do you guys talk to the guys who are working on Samba at all?"
>
> "Hilf: Yeah, I mean, I've known Tridge and Jeremy Allison for many
> years and .."
>
> translation: No
>
> "Q; Anything closer, have you been talking to Red Hat any further?"
>
> "Hilf: I'm not aware of anything that we're -- I mean .."
>
> translation: No
>
> "Q; InformationWeek: I'm curious as to where do these patent claims
> come from?"
>
> "Hilf: We published a patent map, which shows, literally, we listed
> out every number and we listed out every category"
>
> translation: depends which talking head you are talking. I'm MR. nice
> at Microsoft, if you want intimidation talk to 'dances with chairs'
> Ballmer.
>
>
http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=203100965&cid=RSSfeed_IWK_News
>
> Why is it that every time a new version of Windows comes out, the
> SAMBA team has to spend ages catching up in trying to reverse
> engineeer the 'open' protocols?
>
> Why is Open Source spelled open source throughout the article ...
>
> Bill, why aren't you using your gmail invite I sent you .. :)
He's loathed and he quit his role recently, just like Martin Taylor. People
like him belong in an island, like Napoleon.
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| Hilf’s response was... priceless. “I get a lot of e-mail.” “People like to
| subscribe me to crazy newsletters and spam.”
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http://www.oreillynet.com/linux/blog/2007/07/what_will_change_at_microsoft.html
Related:
Microsoft director out to 'debunk mythology around open source'
,----[ Quote ]
| "The Free Software movement is dead. Linux doesn't exist in 2007. Even
| Linus has got a job today." Controversial statements from the head
| of Microsoft's Linux Labs, Bill Hilf.
|
| [...]
|
| Hilf accused his former employers, IBM, of starting a standards war
| simply because they wanted a part of the Office market. People do
| not want ODF (Open Document Format), but they want a way to control
| the information they create, he claimed.
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http://www.bangkokpost.com/090507_Database/09May2007_data05.php
,----[ Quote ]
| "We would like to strike similar patent deals with all the Linux
| vendors, but we had to start somewhere," said Bill Hilf.
`----
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,2064986,00.asp?kc=EWRSS03119TX1K0000594
Sun exec accuses Microsoft of 'patent terrorism'
,----[ Quote ]
| The efforts of Microsoft to pressure the Linux community over alleged and
| unspecified patents is akin to "patent terrorism", according to a local
| executive for Sun Microsystems.
`----
http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/soa/Sun-exec-accuses-Microsoft-of-patent-terrorism-/0,130061733,339280437,00.htm
Microsoft, the art of Corporate Terrorism.
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| Microsoft, no longer the technological leader in the Computer Desktop
| market, is taking on a terrorist role in its attempt remain in power
| at all costs. (see the link to the CNN story below)
|
| The tactic is intended to frighten current, and would be, free
| software users away from products that Microsoft just can't compete
| with. It's not a new tactic, but for the first time desperation is
| beginning to show.
`----
http://sweetcomputing.com/index.php?wiki=Microsoft_Terrorism
Convicted Monopolist Terrorizes Software Industry
,----[ Quote ]
| That headline is designed to grab your attention. Sensationalistic as
| it may be, it also happens to be true, if what you mean by 'terrorize'
| is to provoke fear.
|
| If you've been following the presidential race in the United States,
| you know the present crop of candidates have been exploiting the fear
| of the American people as they never have before in the history of
| the country.
`----
http://www.linux.org/news/opinion/ms_threats.html
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