In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Roy Schestowitz
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on Sat, 18 Nov 2006 13:23:35 +0000
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> Why Microsoft Expression Web redefines irony
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> | Expression is Microsoft's suite of web development tools slated to
> | replace the wonderful application known as Front Page. A quick visit
> | to the site for this tool yields a fairly typical Microsoft webpage.
> |
> | [...]
> |
> | WHOA! Did they not even listen to their own marketing garbage? 144
> | Errors! No DocType? Are you kidding me?
A doctype is no longer necessary in an XHTML-compliant webpage, AIUI;
one need merely declare the namespace properly. Doctypes were required
in XHTML 1.0 but that was superceded a while ago.
http://www.microsoft.com/products/expression/en/web_designer/default.mspx
is mildly amusing; click on "See it in Action", then click on "click
here and begin", then wonder where the [censored censored] plugin went.
Huh?
The page is interesting but extremely messy; there is
neither a doctype nor a namespace -- naughty. There's
quite a bit of Javascript glop; one wonders how the heck
they can edit it.
It's a product that claims to use CSS layout capabilities,
but the page advertising that product does very bad things
such as 'bgcolor=', 'width=', and 'valign=' tags in <td>
and 'width=' and 'height=' in <img> (though the latter
might be somewhat forgivable). There's even a naked
'nowrap' token. (Don't tell the script kiddies.)
I don't know if Web Designer designed this webpage but if
it did, it's disgusting.
Microsoft Brilliance(tm) in action.
A wget on the page indicates a content-type of text/html with an
ISO-8859-1 charset. What? They don't even use Unicode? The loons.
Ow, my brain hurts. And it's Saturday, why am I here? :-)
> |
> | [...]
> |
> | Bravo to our good friends at Microsoft for setting such a great example
> | and leading the masses to a more standards compliant internet! (and
> | for giving web standards geeks something to hate on).
As if we need more.
> `----
>
> http://shifteleven.com/articles/2006/11/16/why-microsoft-expression-web-redefines-irony
>
> Perhaps Microsoft still has Larry Qualig on the project (Frontpage) which got
> Erik apologising and lying. This program is utter rubbish that must be kept
> away from Web designers...
One can hope.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/cc1ad063dcc0400d
>
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> | Wow, this is absolutely devastating! As near as I can tell, the poor
> | guy at Microsoft has been trying to support open standards against
> | management. He doesn't say much about the history, i.e. the fact that
> | Microsoft didn't do anything with IE until they were recently forced to
> | by Firefox competition. The feedback is amazing. Example:
> |
> | Quote:
> | -------------
> | So if you believe that the reason for IE's lack of standards support is
> | something other than malice of forethought to strangle other browsers,
> | you are wrong. If you have followed the anti-trust trial you would have
> | seen the actual evidence for these decisions. Microsoft is an
> | anti-competitive company run by unethical shitheads.
> |
> | This won't change until the workforce is slashed and the entire company
> | culture changes. Steve Ballmer is the king of the shitheads, so when he
> | goes things might get better. But until then, expect MS to only do the
> | absolute minimum to defuse the worst criticism. Remember my words:
> | unethical shitheads.
> | -------------
> | End quote
> |
> | Erik cited this same guy's blog a few days ago to support the notion
> | that Microsoft is dedicated to standards compliance and is doing the
> | reasonable thing (I think that's why he cited it). The way this story
> | has developed, it shows exactly the opposite, and is very revealing
> | about sentiments out there in the developer world.
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