__/ [ Lintard ] on Saturday 30 December 2006 17:17 \__
> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>> __/ [ B Gruff ] on Saturday 30 December 2006 14:11 \__
>>>
>>>> On Saturday 30 December 2006 13:37 DFS wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Canonical CEO Mark Shuttleworth talks why it may finally be time for
>>>>>>> Linux to out-innovate Apple and Microsoft on the desktop.
>>>>>
>>>>> He has a lot of nerve. How are they going to out-innovate anybody when
>>>>> they're so short of ideas they have to make public statements that
>>>>> Vista is the source of their features?
>>>>>
>>>>> "Vista is introducing alot of new features and I'm pretty sure we can
>>>>> (or will very shortly) replicate most of those features in Ubuntu."
>>>>>
>>>>> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-161670.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Well?
>>>>
>>>> Well, DFS, we've discussed this previously.
>>>>
>>>> Your link is actually to a discussion by a group of people LAST APRIL,
>>>> noting what the future release of Vista would contain, and debating how
>>>> well (or otherwise) the "new" features promised for Vista were ALREADY
>>>> (last April) implemented in Linux, and how much these Linux features and
>>>> others would have progressed by the time Vista was released.
>>>>
>>>> Face it DFS - for the vast majority of people in the world, there is
>>>> still
>>>> no such think as Vista. As a private individual, you STILL can't buy
>>>> it!
>>>
>>> GNU/Linux is not ahead of Windows. It is /MILES/ ahead of Windows and, to
>>> a large extent, Mac OS X too.
>
> What does /MILES/ ahead really mean? If you mean security, power and
> openness, sure. However, Linux does not have a huge market share, at
> least on the desktop.
Forcefeeding affects the public's perception. Astroturfing as means of
defeating OS/2, for example, is something that will never be forgotten. Any
form of brainwash can be offensive not only to existing 'customers', but
also to prospective ones. Why do you think Coca Cola's adverts are so
subtle?
>>> Why is Linux misunderstood? Because it has no
>>> marketing department. Linux attracts the best of minds and benefits from
>>> collaboration of minds, many of which are prominent in academia and are
>>> thus masters of their domain (e.g. security).
>
> Marketing, there you go! Linux certainly has great prospects but little
> presence in the market and little promotion. COLA, that is supposed to
> discuss more about Linux ends up discussing a lot about Microsoft
> products. Someone's got to promote Linux and erase the misconceptions in
> general public's mind. General public still thinks Linux is for
> hobbyists.
>
>>>
>>> As for Vista, there is little advancement in it that bear any
>>> significance. The "XP" in "Vista eXPerience" should serve as a hint.
>>> Longhorn is dead. It was scraped. Gone in 2005. RIP. No WinFS (which
>>> Linux has from PalmSource/ACCESS by the, way, under an Open Source
>>> licence), no SOA, nothing of value. Oh! Except for encrypted signals that
>>> help Holywood sell and resell content to a poorer end user (AKA mindless
>>> peon with minimal wage).
>>>
>
> Who cares about Microsoft, at least here? Do you?
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/20764d8b5c873b01
"Windows is the problem; Linux is the solution - sounds like a good
basis for advocacy to me, and AFAICT that is the crux of Roy's posts.
It's certainly more relevant than an Astroturfing MS apologist making
personal attacks."
Also see (posted a couple of hours ago):
http://boycottnovell.com/2006/12/30/microsoft-role/
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